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but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the nationa
but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of...
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john mccain was very passive. let the president, candidate obama do whatever he wants to do. mitt romney will not do that, and here's the strength tonight. >> here's the challenge. on the one hand mitt romney has to connect, needs a second look. has had a rough couple of weeks. everyone acknowledged that. needs to be specific about what a romney presidency would achieve. >> we're not talking about accomplishing a lot. two or three things in an hour and a half to accomplish. one of them is to show he's in command, understands the job of the presidency and put barack obama on the defensive given his horrific record on the economy and on national security, and i think he will do that. i think he will be tough with the president. i don't think the president will react particularly well to that because i don't think the president gets people who are very tough with him very often, and i think that interplay i think will be the key moment of the night. >> you see more people optimistic about the economy. you see the president's poll numbers improving with regard to handling the eco
john mccain was very passive. let the president, candidate obama do whatever he wants to do. mitt romney will not do that, and here's the strength tonight. >> here's the challenge. on the one hand mitt romney has to connect, needs a second look. has had a rough couple of weeks. everyone acknowledged that. needs to be specific about what a romney presidency would achieve. >> we're not talking about accomplishing a lot. two or three things in an hour and a half to accomplish. one of...
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but douglashall john mccain's former policy adviser says the same thing in a story this morning. elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been around d.c. for a long time. has anyone ever questioned this number, any reason to be suspicious of the integrity of it? >> i don't think so. you heard what jared said earlier. you heard what all the other folks say. i love that little line that jared had that they don't let the jan tors take out the garbage until after the numbers are released. it's funny. remember last month when the rather weak unemployment numbers came out, president obama knew them, knew what the numbers would be when he was giving a speech at the democratic convention because the president gets to know the day before when his council of economic advisers chairman takes a piece of paper over and tells him. he knew those numbers wh
but douglashall john mccain's former policy adviser says the same thing in a story this morning. elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been around d.c. for a long time. has anyone ever questioned this number, any reason to be suspicious of the...
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he looks like a whipper snapper compared to john mccain or barack obama. ryan who is younger, who doesn't understand the concerns of older americans more, if so, i think since 1992, actually, the party -- if obama were to go on to win, since '92, the party with more sober and serious vice presidential candidate actually will prevail. >> very interesting. mona eltahawy. october is breast cancer awareness month and since i'm associated with pink now, i am encouraging those to self-exam and get mammograms and seeing as i've been associated with the anti-muslim post -- will you come out to a subway station with me where i will take off my blouse and bare breasted dem station in store of my tattoo. >>> i hope you're watching. reporters, i want -- jeffrey toob in, author of the oath, the obama white house. barbara arn wine for the -- akil ammar and egyptian american journalist, mona eltahawy. >> our guests will include joseph stig litz, columbia university and author of the book of price of inequality. up next is melissa harris-perry. on today, debate club previ
he looks like a whipper snapper compared to john mccain or barack obama. ryan who is younger, who doesn't understand the concerns of older americans more, if so, i think since 1992, actually, the party -- if obama were to go on to win, since '92, the party with more sober and serious vice presidential candidate actually will prevail. >> very interesting. mona eltahawy. october is breast cancer awareness month and since i'm associated with pink now, i am encouraging those to self-exam and...
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estimates that it was one, 1.5 points is what she cost john mccain for being on the ticket. which is huge. think back to dan quayle. i've never seen a more dramatic contrast between the competence of the two vice presidential candidates, lloyd benson, this old testament authority and dan quayle and benson delivered that devastating line. michael dukakis lost the election but the race tightened towards the end. there was a lot of considerat n consideration -- >> let me ask one last question here on this particular issue. is this going to be more fun for joe biden than 2008 was because sarah palin was someone that he had to pull punches against both because she was a woman, but also because it would not have looked good to beat up on her? is this more fun for him? >> i think he was dancing a delicate dance in 2008. you'll see he's up the p 90x 9% body fat guy. he can go as hard as he wants to. after the debate last week, he has to. >> chloe, i want to take up the issue you brought up is whether or not they are looking ahead, whether or not what they're actually doing is runnin
estimates that it was one, 1.5 points is what she cost john mccain for being on the ticket. which is huge. think back to dan quayle. i've never seen a more dramatic contrast between the competence of the two vice presidential candidates, lloyd benson, this old testament authority and dan quayle and benson delivered that devastating line. michael dukakis lost the election but the race tightened towards the end. there was a lot of considerat n consideration -- >> let me ask one last...
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in 2008 in iowa, then senator barack obama received fewer votes than senator john mccain on election day. but still won the state due to tally from early voting. this year, president obama could receive the same edge from early voting. and the iowa secretary of state's office says that democrats have a 5 to 1 advantage over republicans in the number of absentee ballots requested. now, though the state's republican party promises to close that advantage by election day, the candidates seem to have embraced early voting. both camps approximate put out ads that look and feel like closing arguments. here's president obama's. >> it's time for a new economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong, thriving middle class. read my plan. compare it to governor romney's and decide for yourself. >> and with a very different pitch, governor mitt romney. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we
in 2008 in iowa, then senator barack obama received fewer votes than senator john mccain on election day. but still won the state due to tally from early voting. this year, president obama could receive the same edge from early voting. and the iowa secretary of state's office says that democrats have a 5 to 1 advantage over republicans in the number of absentee ballots requested. now, though the state's republican party promises to close that advantage by election day, the candidates seem to...
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john mccain and i share that. you combine all that with being a team with the only track record of making any difference of where we've been in reforming, and that's a good team, it is a good ticket. >> senator? >> you are very kind. she said my only achille's heel is my enthusiasm. people can judge who i am. i haven't changed in that time. by the way, the record of change, i will place my record and barack's record against anyone. we put 100,000 cops on the street. john mccain voted against both of those bills. the catalyst to change led by president clinton, obviously. i understand what it is like to be a single parent. when my wife and daughter died and my sue sons were gravely injured, i understand what it is like as a parent to wonder if your kid is going to make it. i understand what it is like to sit around the table with a father who says, i have to leave. when we get enough money, we'll bring you down. i understand what it is like. i am much better off than most americans now. i get a good salary in the u
john mccain and i share that. you combine all that with being a team with the only track record of making any difference of where we've been in reforming, and that's a good team, it is a good ticket. >> senator? >> you are very kind. she said my only achille's heel is my enthusiasm. people can judge who i am. i haven't changed in that time. by the way, the record of change, i will place my record and barack's record against anyone. we put 100,000 cops on the street. john mccain...
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and we have columnist megan mccain, daughter of former presidential candidate john mccain. megan, i want to start with you, was this debate a reprieve for mitt romney? steve says they are basically a reset moving forward in watching the numbers tighten with momentum, the wind at his back. >> let me tell you something, thomas, this morning is a good morning to be a romney supporter. yes, i definitely think that mitt romney came back swinging and completely reset the election and gained new momentum and enthusiasm and did an incredible job last night and i have never been more proud of him. >> ron, ed schultz told me liberals are emotional and disappointed that the president was not more aggressive. and others say this is equivalent of the rnc convention, a big lackluster. >> he was a bit off his game. it's a bit like watching the team going into the fourth quarter and they start playing defense. they don't try to win anymore. if you don't try to win in politics, you're losing. president obama strangely enough led tior let time after time pa, i don't have a tax plan that cost
and we have columnist megan mccain, daughter of former presidential candidate john mccain. megan, i want to start with you, was this debate a reprieve for mitt romney? steve says they are basically a reset moving forward in watching the numbers tighten with momentum, the wind at his back. >> let me tell you something, thomas, this morning is a good morning to be a romney supporter. yes, i definitely think that mitt romney came back swinging and completely reset the election and gained new...
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. >> senator john mccain is the only man who has debated both of these individuals. he weighed in on the expectations this morning. take a listen. >> serve and provide us -- >> it's not just that they go bankrupt, he doesn't understand -- >> comments that grabbed everybody's attention. because frankly, the candidates are too well prepared. they're well scripted. >> what you did not hear the beginning there, is the senator said i think you're going to see more viewers, than any debate in history. and then he also said he can't remember the last time that any of these things affected the outcome of a presidential race. save 1960 and 2000, have the debates ever really impacted the outcome of a race, chris kofinis? >> it's funny, i hear the debate about debates not necessarily mattering. and i actually disagree with that i think the 1980, the reagan/carter debate. the debates mattered. they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it r
. >> senator john mccain is the only man who has debated both of these individuals. he weighed in on the expectations this morning. take a listen. >> serve and provide us -- >> it's not just that they go bankrupt, he doesn't understand -- >> comments that grabbed everybody's attention. because frankly, the candidates are too well prepared. they're well scripted. >> what you did not hear the beginning there, is the senator said i think you're going to see more...
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and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the day, when men and women were free. we will fight for it, and there is only one man in this race who has really ever fought for you, and that's senator john mccain. >> thank you, governor. senator biden. >> gwen, thank you for doing this, and the commission, and governor, it really was a pleasure getting to meet you. look, folks, this is the most important election you've ever voted in your entire life. no one can deny that the last eight years, we've been dug into a very deep hole here at home with regard to our econo
and so has john mccain. we have to fight for our freedoms, also, economic and our national security freedoms. it was ronald reagan who said that freedom is always just one generation away from extinction. we don't pass it to our children in the bloodstream; we have to fight for it and protect it, and then hand it to them so that they shall do the same, or we're going to find ourselves spending our sunset years telling our children and our children's children about a time in america, back in the...
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i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened, but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes, this was -- this is being thoroughly investigated. >> first they said it wasn't planned, it was part of this tape. >> as a director of national intelligence said on friday, that was the original information that was given to us. what we don't need is a president or administration that shoots first and asks questions later. >> but is that wha
i want to pick up on what john mccain and i were talking about. there's back and forth now about why did this administration -- why did it take them until friday after a september 11th attack in libya to come to the conclusion that it was premeditated and that it was terrorist-involved. john mccain said it doesn't pass the smell test or it's willful ignorance to think that they didn't know before this what was going on. your reaction? >> well, first of all, candy, as you know, the...
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bush, john mccain, bob dole, they were not debaters. the republicans finally have someone on the state that could take it to a democratic challenger. >> colby? >> the prospect of hanging focuses the mind. did run the credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out of south carolina behind. he pulled together, took on new toingrich, and inhe same thing to him as a bid to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in the eye, and not be condescending or patronizing. in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point
bush, john mccain, bob dole, they were not debaters. the republicans finally have someone on the state that could take it to a democratic challenger. >> colby? >> the prospect of hanging focuses the mind. did run the credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out of south carolina behind. he pulled together, took on new toingrich, and inhe same thing to him as a bid to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in...
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>> had john mccain on our show on "morning joe" and he talked about that. he said you sit there for weeks on end, rehash and remembering your lines. a point where you have to walk away and be yourself. you had david axelrod say to you the other day that the romney campaign has had more preparation for this than it took to invade normandy so, you know, everybody is setting this funny bar of the other guy's so great. he's unbeatable. >> trying to set expectations low so it will be easy to see them. has this reached the point of absurdity. >> we in the media, what's going to happen in this first debate? what do people think is actually going to happen that -- we've seen thousands of hours, and we haven't seen them together, but other than one of them saying the most horrific thing, what do we think is going to happen that we haven't seen before with these guys? what are we waiting for? >> there's some hope that we will not be aiming towards immedia mediocrity and these two guys are the smartest guys we have available to fix the problems, yet they themselves tr
>> had john mccain on our show on "morning joe" and he talked about that. he said you sit there for weeks on end, rehash and remembering your lines. a point where you have to walk away and be yourself. you had david axelrod say to you the other day that the romney campaign has had more preparation for this than it took to invade normandy so, you know, everybody is setting this funny bar of the other guy's so great. he's unbeatable. >> trying to set expectations low so it...
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we did not even know of john mccain would show up on the night. so that september, mitt romney had a tough month, people ask me all the time with a point to happen? , if you's pretty early think. think. 18 days with sarah palin seemed like a lifetime to me. got two lifetimes, that's like 40 days. a lot can happen on the campaign trail between now and then. it's a very interesting time. let's roll back a little. let's talk about the early days. first, my story. how i got to the campaign. i will go back to september again, 2006. my wife and i were sitting on the banks of the potomac in alexandria, virginia. we have our pad and paper. paper being married to a serial campaigner, she has to go through this ritual every year where we say what are our goals for the year? it never goes exactly the way we want, but it makes me feel better, and she plays a long. we're on the banks of the potomac and we had a nice life. i had a consulting practice i was very happy with and i enjoyed the balance of my life. my wife was working at the university doing public r
we did not even know of john mccain would show up on the night. so that september, mitt romney had a tough month, people ask me all the time with a point to happen? , if you's pretty early think. think. 18 days with sarah palin seemed like a lifetime to me. got two lifetimes, that's like 40 days. a lot can happen on the campaign trail between now and then. it's a very interesting time. let's roll back a little. let's talk about the early days. first, my story. how i got to the campaign. i will...
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bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well prepared. he was confident. he showed that he could go toe to toe with the president, looking in the eye, and not be condescending or patronizing. he dealt with obama the way that obama should i dealt with him. >> in the 50 years of presidential debates, i do not think there has been a debate in which there was such a decisive win in the absence of a gaffe. if you have one like the one with ford in eastern europe, others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or one of the bad moments, like, i knew jack kennedy, you're no jack kennedy. but there was no sound bite in
bush, john mccain, and bob dole, they could not debate. republicans finally have someone on stage that could take it to the democrats. >> focusing the mind. >> it is the prospect of hanging that focuses the mind. >> either way, you are dead. >> give romney credit for this. he is a fighter. he came out and was behind in south carolina. he pulled together in florida. he took on newt gingrich. he did the same thing to him what he did to obama. he was well prepared. he was...
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senator john mccain is here. good evening, sir. good evening. >> greta: there was an interesting debate last night. let me get the overall view. i know that you said earlier it was poor. but if you could elaborate on that? >> greta, i think that it obviously was a very big win for for -- for mitt. i think it's pretty obvious that -- that president obama has spent the last four years in a bubble with an adoring media. but i also know that barack obama is a very excellent debater. he knows -- he will be going over the mistakes that he made and i think that he hrs is going to be much better and much better prepared in the next debate. this was really important. i saw where i think 67 million people watched. and one of the most important things about this, gret awas that they have spent -- the obama campaign has spent hundreds of millions of dollars portraying mitt romney as a bain capital capitalist, driving the unfavorables up, especially in the swing states and mitt romney, last night, came across as a person of capability, of visio
senator john mccain is here. good evening, sir. good evening. >> greta: there was an interesting debate last night. let me get the overall view. i know that you said earlier it was poor. but if you could elaborate on that? >> greta, i think that it obviously was a very big win for for -- for mitt. i think it's pretty obvious that -- that president obama has spent the last four years in a bubble with an adoring media. but i also know that barack obama is a very excellent debater. he...
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one was, remember when he first started running for president against, in the primary when john mccain was the candidate? he tended to like to talk about data, and we even joked how he was so focused on data. >> paul: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of focusing on that, romney is saying, you spent two years trying to pass one of your big priorities in social legislation and that's hurt job creation, a powerful point. >> yeah, it's a good point, but i think the health care issue is not going to go away in this debate. we're going to hear more of it. barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medic
one was, remember when he first started running for president against, in the primary when john mccain was the candidate? he tended to like to talk about data, and we even joked how he was so focused on data. >> paul: right. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to...
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we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regu
we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some...
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. >> dave: as a former debate coach of john mccain, i believe. debates are substance style is style over substance. game changes. do they come down to mannerisms, how you say thing or personality? >> a combination. i think that any challenger just benefits from being on the same stage. to the agree you think he is the president and the other guy isn't. when you see the two of them on the stage, it automatically lifts the challenger to make it look he hat the same stature as the president. first of all if you plan too much with one liners, they are ready to do it. they know what each side is going to do. obviously you can see it. you have been talking earlier today about the obama people trotting out some of those bain employees that were laid off. their basic argument is going to be that he rich guy who is going to take us back to the policies of george w. bush. he was more interested in protecting the wealthy. romney's challenge to say why his policies which include tax cuts why they would help the middle-class. he has to show that his plan will
. >> dave: as a former debate coach of john mccain, i believe. debates are substance style is style over substance. game changes. do they come down to mannerisms, how you say thing or personality? >> a combination. i think that any challenger just benefits from being on the same stage. to the agree you think he is the president and the other guy isn't. when you see the two of them on the stage, it automatically lifts the challenger to make it look he hat the same stature as the...
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john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was substance. it was a deep, deep knowledge that he showed on the economy, on the deb, on the deficit, on health care. every issue that came up. and obama stammering, stambling, without that teleprompter, this guy is lost. this is a myth that was shattered last night. he was reduced in 90 minutes, before the american people, i felt. >> yeah. that's because romney had a clarity of purpose, a clarity of mind, a clarity of principles that we know that obama has lacked for a long, long time. i think that going forward now, there is now an extra burden on these liberal journalists to do-- >>> not
john mccain wouldn't look obama in the eye. mitt romney was looking him -- your policies. i think he left a lot on the table, personally. i think there is plenty hoof could could -- he could have brought up. maybe it won't be so easy in a town hall environment, the president will probably overreact. he was angry today, he called romney a liar, petulant. he is arrogant. he has never taken a punch. he is used to hail to the chief and i'm great, etsetra. i think, it wasn't just style, it was...
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only 39 percent for john mccain. it increased under post- graduate. a little different among high- school graduates, because the president getting only 47 percent, john mccain with 53 percent. what will we see in 2012? guest: keitel brought up the party line that mitt romney is advocating for. brought up the party line. on the issue of turnout to vote. 66% voted for obama. two or three weeks ago there was a poll released, and in the poll, 18-29 year old age bracket is 45% 4 mitt romney. the first time a republican has broken the 40 ce% bracket for youth. governor romney has the experience to create jobs. the 18-29 year olds are either coming nearing graduation and wanting jobs or are suffering in the obama economy. i think you will see a turnaround -- turnout in the polls and will favor for mitt romney. host: we have been focusing on key sectors of the electorate. we will get back to your calls in just a moment. what shape your ideology? why are you a democrat and why you support president obama? do you support president obama? guest: mostly what infl
only 39 percent for john mccain. it increased under post- graduate. a little different among high- school graduates, because the president getting only 47 percent, john mccain with 53 percent. what will we see in 2012? guest: keitel brought up the party line that mitt romney is advocating for. brought up the party line. on the issue of turnout to vote. 66% voted for obama. two or three weeks ago there was a poll released, and in the poll, 18-29 year old age bracket is 45% 4 mitt romney. the...
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even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for tonight, they don't want a pitch at office park dads. they want -- they want the candidates to speak to the country. >> but i'm curious, michael, how many people do you think are watching, not asking for an exact number, i don't think you walk around counting folks, your idea on thoughts,
even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we...